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Post  SeVeNeVeS Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:48 pm

yep, same here. 14.47 GMT 03/09/21

About time Proteus handed over the reigns to von corax and hopefully this kinda sh*t will stop.

Almost a year since the call and no forward motion, getting slightly miffed with it all !!
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Post  The Bullet Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:01 pm

Same here. (Germany), down since this morning.

Since more than a year I can only access BG using tor browser.....
Could someone fiy that?

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Post  SeVeNeVeS Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:14 pm

On another point, why make Stella Gaslight admin here?

She rarely visits BG, if at all these days, along with most other governers, so a bad choice for someone to be in the loop, owning the key to a lifeboat.

Change it to our von corax or another Mod who is active and on the pulse, some serious organising needs to be sorted, very soon methinks.


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Post  The Bullet Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:15 pm

Correct,
I am often online on BG but have no knowledge required for an admin post.
So I am out.

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Post  SeVeNeVeS Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:53 pm

I suggest strip all current rights

The new regime should be........

I must apoligise if I typo here........ And I'm going on most active, both online and replying to posts.......

Von Corax.......... Admin

J W........... Governor

Madasasteamfish...........Global Mod

Rockula........... Global Mod

All the others are just not active and their presence in the list of people to go to and run the forum, is superfluous, quite honestly an insult to the valued volunteers that actually do the work, so it's down to four people...........
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Post  SeVeNeVeS Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:44 pm

It's back 17.43 Very Happy
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Post  von Corax Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:23 pm

It seems to be just you at the moment.

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Post  The Bullet Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:26 pm

Works for me.

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Post  RockyB Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:55 pm

Are we down again?
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Post  von Corax Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:47 am

It seems we might be.

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Post  Synistor 303 Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:10 am

Nothing working from down here either... Sad
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Post  James Harrison Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:54 pm

Oh dear. It wasn't working last night for me and it's not back this morning either.
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Post  RockyB Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:12 pm

I'm getting 'Brass Goggles is online but is not responding to log in requests'.

I have no idea what that means or how we fix it.
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Post  von Corax Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:35 pm

RockyB wrote:I'm getting 'Brass Goggles is online but is not responding to log in requests'.

I have no idea what that means or how we fix it.
That's more than I'm getting - for me it just times out.

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Post  James Harrison Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:43 pm

Is Proteus still the Custodian of the Keys for the BG machinery spaces?- might we need to start thinking about hunkering down for a prolonged blackout?
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Post  J. Wilhelm Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:23 pm

I wish I knew. I have not been available in the last couple of days to investigate. I'll do the usual and try to approach BG through proxies in the TOR network, to see what I get.
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Post  SeVeNeVeS Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:36 am

Yawn....... Until new admin on both forums are appointed this will be an ever, ongoing event.

Scroll to top of the page, I think I've already said what needs to be said, it just has to be put into some kind of urgent action, if not, no more BG is a reality, it has been limping along for far too long (over a year?) and inactivity will be its final demise.

Has anyone actually have a way of contacting Proteus?
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Post  J. Wilhelm Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:29 pm

SeVeNeVeS wrote:Yawn....... Until new admin on both forums are appointed this will be an ever, ongoing event.

Scroll to top of the page, I think I've already said what needs to be said, it just has to be put into some kind of urgent action, if not, no more BG is a reality, it has been limping along for far too long (over a year?) and inactivity will be its final demise.

Has anyone actually have a way of contacting Proteus?

I think you know the answer to that question. But how can anyone do anything about that when we insist on being completely anonymous characters on the internet? Reaching someone who doesn't want to to be reached is impossible unless you want to do some serious detective work (as if we had the time to do that. Most of us are working stiffs). The only thing that bothers me is the resistance to finding a backup of the simple machines database, so something could be recovered, or alternatively finding a complete self-funded substitute forum.

The most obviously stable platform that we have is right in front of you. Needs no maintenance. It's always available. No one needs to pay for it. Problem solved. Caveat? "We could be spied on" by... "xyz"

Just lose the fear of the bogey-man spying on your nakey photos inside your computer. I think the main argument against Forumotion is that it can't handle too much data storage (am I wrong?)
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Post  RJBowman Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:14 pm

It's been down for three or four days. I'm a little concerned. In additional to it's social function, the forum serves as a very disorganized information archive. Some of it is archived on Wayback Machine, but they don't seem to have updated there archive in a few years, and you seem to need the URL to access their mirror.

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Post  James Harrison Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:20 pm

Well, the topics I post often about (restoring/ refurbishing my Edwardian house and my toy trains) I also post about elsewhere:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2655261677887840
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/120367-rufford-red-lion-square/

It would be great though if BG were to come back...
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Post  J. Wilhelm Sat Dec 25, 2021 5:06 am

RJBowman wrote:It's been down for three or four days. I'm a little concerned. In additional to it's social function, the forum serves as a very disorganized information archive. Some of it is archived on Wayback Machine, but they don't seem to have updated there archive in a few years, and you seem to need the URL to access their mirror.

I think Prof. Marvel knows more about the Wayback Machine than I do. I've never looked into it, I'm afraid.

If we had a most recent snapshot of the forum, we could use that as a starting point for another forum. You can always write links to your own posts to direct users to the old information.

I think a big brouhaha is the ownership of the domain name, and the name of the forum itself, besides the exact rules as to how it was meant to be hosted (no adverts). The last thing we need is a future fight with the forum's founders. But we have to be realistic about this. If the founders were interested, they would have contacted us already after Proteus initial warning that a new administration was needed.

Personally I'd push for the most independent solution possible. We can't depend on the past for survival.
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Post  prof marvel Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:48 am

>>I think Prof. Marvel knows more about the Wayback Machine than I do

here is what the wayback has, despite my best efforts it is less than complete.
snip----
from the wayback


http://brassgoggles.co.uk/
brass goggles
136,692
3,492
0 0
185,260 capture(s) from 2007 to 2016 | Site stats

here is a link to what they captured
https://web.archive.org/web/20210929072020/http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/

there were some captures during 2021

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php/*
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>>I think a big brouhaha is the ownership of the domain name, and the name of the forum itself, besides the exact rules as to
>>how it was meant to be hosted (no adverts). The last thing we need is a future fight with the forum's founders. But we have
>>to be realistic about this. If the founders were interested, they would have contacted us already after Proteus initial warning
>>that a new administration was needed.

so we are stuck in the "same old"

I am literally afraid that rather than allow any change at all, the old pharts would rather see it fade away, along with themselves.

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Post  J. Wilhelm Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:03 am

Well, I'm not fading away, nor anyone else who's still participating. We'll continue being Steampunk as long as we're alive. What matters is our friendship. I wish I could be optimistic about saving the old database, but that's life. Perhaps we were carrying a lot of baggage. Most older threads had lost their pictures anyway, with all those image servers gone or changing their rules.

If you think about it, information is really all we are in the end. It's all you leave behind when you exit this plane of existence. And guess what? We all remember what we did when we were in Brassgoggles. If you can talk about yourself and the things you like, and care to repost your pictures, we can restart our association anywhere.
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Post  mwbaaailey Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:20 am

J. Wilhelm wrote:Well, I'm not fading away, nor anyone else who's still participating. We'll continue being Steampunk as long as we're alive. What matters is our friendship. I wish I could be optimistic about saving the old database, but that's life. Perhaps we were carrying a lot of baggage. Most older threads had lost their pictures anyway, with all those image servers gone or changing their rules.

If you think about it, information is really all we are in the end. It's all you leave behind when you exit this plane of existence. And guess what? We all remember what we did when we were in Brassgoggles. If you can talk about yourself and the things you like, and care to repost your pictures, we can restart our association anywhere.



Hear, hear!
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Post  SeVeNeVeS Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:14 pm

mwbaaailey wrote:
J. Wilhelm wrote:Well, I'm not fading away, nor anyone else who's still participating. We'll continue being Steampunk as long as we're alive. What matters is our friendship. I wish I could be optimistic about saving the old database, but that's life. Perhaps we were carrying a lot of baggage. Most older threads had lost their pictures anyway, with all those image servers gone or changing their rules.

If you think about it, information is really all we are in the end. It's all you leave behind when you exit this plane of existence. And guess what? We all remember what we did when we were in Brassgoggles. If you can talk about yourself and the things you like, and care to repost your pictures, we can restart our association anywhere.



Hear, hear!

If BG has in fact died a final death, then you can definitely count me in for contributions to a new and fresh forum, if it should come to that, then, consider me on board 100%.
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