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Post  JingleJoe Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:15 am

The most steampunk of all injuries I think you will agree is the steam burn, and may be one to which many of us are susceptible;
But how would one go about treating a steam burn?
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Post  Ms. K.D.R. Tempus Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:21 am

Plenty of cold water. After that, brandy (inside, to numb the pain, or at least not care). Very Happy

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Post  JingleJoe Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:33 am

Thankyou Ms. Tempus, I seek remedy on behalf of my mum Laughing She says she has used a bag of peas so far. Its not terribly bad, so hopefully she'll be okay soon Smile
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Post  HAC Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:50 am

JingleJoe wrote:The most steampunk of all injuries I think you will agree is the steam burn, and may be one to which many of us are susceptible;
But how would one go about treating a steam burn?

If its a real steam burn, and not simply from the hot water vapour that most steampunks mistakenly believe to be steam (although those can be just as nasty and painful), hospital or proper medical treatment is the only way.. trust me on this.. 250PSI with 100 degrees superheat from a pinhole leak, is EXTREMELY nasty, even if it only grazes you.

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Post  lilibat Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:09 am

Cold water and aloe fresh from the plant if available. Works on brass burns too.
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Post  von Corax Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:34 am

Harold's comments seconded. For technical steam, immediate hospitalization, and probably skin grafts. For vernacular steam, immediate cold-water deluge, followed by either aloe vera squeezings or some form of analgesic ointment.

If there's more than trivial blistering, you must have your mum's GP look at it, and if there's any blistering at all you could do worse than have him/her look at it anyway, at his earliest convenience.

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Post  JingleJoe Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:42 am

von Corax wrote:
If there's more than trivial blistering, you must have your mum's GP look at it
Ah don't worry it's not more than a red mark on her arm, no blistering. It just made me think- What would I do if I got a steam burn? Considering that I might be working with steam power one day Wink


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Post  Gazongola Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:51 am

The proper, proper way, coming from a trained proffessional, is run under a cold tap for ten minutes. If it still stings, do it again. If you want, wrap it in clingfilm afterwards to keep it clean. Infact, clingfilm should be applied if you need to go to hospital also. NOTHING ELSE should be out on or removed from a burn unless it is by a doctor. Although a bit of cream might be soothing after the stinging has gone with the water, but not if it still hurts. If you put anything on to a burn, it will cook.
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Post  Prof_Von_Grumbleflick Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:41 pm

My personal physician would suggest using leeches.

I hope this helps.
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Post  darkshines Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:53 pm

I got a steam burn on my finger tip from a baked potato oven once, the steam touched my finger tip for less than a second, it took me two seconds to get it in ice and by then I already had a blister the size of a baked bean. It HURT. A LOT.
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Post  maduncle Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:30 am

I have a 1" diameter circular brown patch on my right forearm from a boiling kettle scald I got 30 years ago - for some reason the steam burn darkened my sking when no other burn ever has.
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Post  prof marvel Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:23 am

The following diatribe may not be suitable for queasy audiences.

Ordinary Home burns, Kettle Steam, and the like are best treated with immediate cooling as described above. Various ointments and gels, also mentioned previously should only be applied long after the flesh is known to be well cooled.

I assume "clingfilm" across the pond, is similar to "second skin" over here, a sterile plastic psuedo-skin containing gel .

For large burns Medical experts recommend "large quantities of cool water" to literally stop the flesh from continuing to cook. Note "cool" as opposed to "cold" . This is because the next issue with a large dramatic burn is Shock.

As our Good Harold relates, true Live Steam Burns are life-threatening. High Pressure steam at superheated temperatures can and will strip flesh from bone before you can say "ouch".

Many Industrial Steam burns are from the still very hot condensate.

not for the faint-of-heart:
"Surviving a Steam Rupture in an Enclosed Space"

http://www.kirsner.org/kce/media/pdfs/KirsnerSurvive.pdf

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Post  Miles (a sailor)Martin Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:51 am

when i was in the Navy the way we were taught to search for a steam leak was by holding a broom out in front of us bristle end first, while sliding it along the pipe we were checking , when the bristles fell to the floor we had found it, this was for a 1200 psi water tube boiler system on a Charles Addams class DDG, i doubt the basic idea has changed much. the same metod was also recomended on my SS(B)N for leaks in the secondary loop. if the leak was in the primary we were probly dead men walking any way.so the same method would have been used, thank Murpy it never happened. Very Happy or if it did i've been a Zombie without knowing it for thirty years. Laughing Miles (an old sailor) Martin
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on 1200 psi steam , the pressure is so high and the temp is so hot that it doesn't cool enough to make a plume until ten to fifteen feet away from the crack it is escaping from, and it can cut a unprotected person in half ,that is why the broomstick out front aproche(sp?) is taught. apology for errors in spelling requested

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