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Pocket Watch repair...
Greetings Ladies and Gentlepunks;
I inherited a Zenith Swiss Pocket watch, that had belonged to my grandfather.
Sadly it came to me slightly damaged. The glass has come out.
Does anyone know how to repair this, or know of a reputable repair-"person"?
Thank you,
-Z
I inherited a Zenith Swiss Pocket watch, that had belonged to my grandfather.
Sadly it came to me slightly damaged. The glass has come out.
Does anyone know how to repair this, or know of a reputable repair-"person"?
Thank you,
-Z
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
If the glass is completely intact, you should be able to press it back in without it breaking. If it's loose, then you might want to get some JB weld to tack it into place. Speaking of watches, I got my Bulova fixed after having it die 5 years ago.
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Information on replacing crystals... But ideally we'd have HAC here to give us the benefit of his wisdom.
If the crystal is broken then you can purchase a replacement but you need to know the exact size. A local watch repair person should be able to measure it for you. You can then purchase a replacement online and do the work yourself.
Is there anything else wrong with the watch?
Z.
If the crystal is broken then you can purchase a replacement but you need to know the exact size. A local watch repair person should be able to measure it for you. You can then purchase a replacement online and do the work yourself.
Is there anything else wrong with the watch?
Z.
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Professor;professordevlin wrote:If the glass is completely intact, you should be able to press it back in without it breaking. If it's loose, then you might want to get some JB weld to tack it into place. Speaking of watches, I got my Bulova fixed after having it die 5 years ago.
It is unbroken, but, it is loose.
I'll try the JB weld, if HAC doesn't post.
Thank you
Z;Zwack wrote:Information on replacing crystals... But ideally we'd have HAC here to give us the benefit of his wisdom.
If the crystal is broken then you can purchase a replacement but you need to know the exact size. A local watch repair person should be able to measure it for you. You can then purchase a replacement online and do the work yourself.
Is there anything else wrong with the watch?
Z.
"a near-fit can be held in place with an adhesive such as epoxy or a resin that sets under ultraviolet light"
Would this work better then JB weld? And I wonder how strong a UV light, one would need?
The watch still winds up and works perfectly, even though I'm sure it's from the 1940's, or perhaps a little older.
I plan on using it to create this:
I just ordered the clasp and this weekend I'll order the leather from Tandy.
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
I'd go for a two part epoxy resin one that sets clear(ish) myself...
I don't think that HAC has made it over here yet.
Z.
I don't think that HAC has made it over here yet.
Z.
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Zwack wrote:I'd go for a two part epoxy resin one that sets clear(ish) myself...
I don't think that HAC has made it over here yet.
Z.
I have sent our Refugee Camp address to what I believe is HAC's email addy. If we don't hear from him soon, I'll do some more searching.
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Thank you...cause I was thinking. The crystal just falls out...what do I glue it too...if it's not touching anything?
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
The crystals on my pocket watches fit into a metal ring that screws or clips onto the watch itself. I would imagine that the crystal is supposed to be glued into that ring... You may need to examine the metal body closely to work out where it should go on yours.
Z.
Z.
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Hrmm...perhaps I'm missing that ring.Zwack wrote:The crystals on my pocket watches fit into a metal ring that screws or clips onto the watch itself. I would imagine that the crystal is supposed to be glued into that ring... You may need to examine the metal body closely to work out where it should go on yours.
Z.
I'll have to try and take a pic of it, though my digi cam has a lower quality then a 5 year old's art.
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Depending on the case it might look like this without the ring the crystal fits into...
stolen from here
Top right... The groove that runs across two parts of the case is where the lever (for a lever set watch) slides... The same case is used for a pendant set watch so you might not have the lever but still have the groove.
My Key wind Key set watch has a hinge on the crystal and it snaps into place. My pendant set watch has a swing out case like the one pictured above with a screw on crystal.
I hope that this helps.
Z.
stolen from here
Top right... The groove that runs across two parts of the case is where the lever (for a lever set watch) slides... The same case is used for a pendant set watch so you might not have the lever but still have the groove.
My Key wind Key set watch has a hinge on the crystal and it snaps into place. My pendant set watch has a swing out case like the one pictured above with a screw on crystal.
I hope that this helps.
Z.
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Crystals quite often are simply press fit.. its friction that holds them in. The proper adhesive is "crystal cement", which comes in two forms, a regular setting type, and a formula that requreis exposuer to UV light to set. One of the better non UV types is GS Crystal Cement, which is about $7.00 a tube.
Advice, - make sure the rim on the bezel that the crystal seats into, is clean and dry, I use a 1mm scerwdriover to scrape out any adhesive residue kleft over from the last time it was cemented in..
If you don't have crystal cement, you could use any thin non-epoxy cement. I have used white glue in a pinch, or (gasp! worst case, a very thin film (and I mean thin, as in very sparingly applied) silicone seal - not recommended, but it was an emergency repair.
Any good watch repair parts house shuld have the right glue..
Cheers
Harodl
Advice, - make sure the rim on the bezel that the crystal seats into, is clean and dry, I use a 1mm scerwdriover to scrape out any adhesive residue kleft over from the last time it was cemented in..
If you don't have crystal cement, you could use any thin non-epoxy cement. I have used white glue in a pinch, or (gasp! worst case, a very thin film (and I mean thin, as in very sparingly applied) silicone seal - not recommended, but it was an emergency repair.
Any good watch repair parts house shuld have the right glue..
Cheers
Harodl
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
That was it...I didn't have the ring.
I have located it, but can't seem to snap it into place, and I was afraid to force it.
Do you need a special tool for that?
Thank you all, for all of your advice.
I have located it, but can't seem to snap it into place, and I was afraid to force it.
Do you need a special tool for that?
Thank you all, for all of your advice.
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
CaptZaphod wrote:That was it...I didn't have the ring.
I have located it, but can't seem to snap it into place, and I was afraid to force it.
Do you need a special tool for that?
Thank you all, for all of your advice.
One of mine screws on, the other just clips on, no force required...
Sorry that this isn't much help, but it might be that the ring has been distorted.
Z.
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Mine is a perfectly circle ring, with a tiny thumb-nail lip, to pry the ring off with.Zwack wrote:CaptZaphod wrote:That was it...I didn't have the ring.
I have located it, but can't seem to snap it into place, and I was afraid to force it.
Do you need a special tool for that?
Thank you all, for all of your advice.
One of mine screws on, the other just clips on, no force required...
Sorry that this isn't much help, but it might be that the ring has been distorted.
Z.
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
I actually have a watch that my father had given to me that was a "repeater" a pocket watch with chimes but I think the main spring has, well, sprung. As a kid I was facinated by how such a small thing could chime every 15 minutes from my dad's pocket. It inspired my love for pocket watches but has always been the real one I wish to pull from my pocket to look at. Here in So California, I've been coming up empty on actual watch makers who would want to tinker with an antique. Any other possible places to look?
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Need a bit more info (brand, possibly a pic of the movement), before I can give any advice. A lot depends on the make of watch, as availability of parts can be an issue. With luck, a generic mainspring may be feasible..
Cheers
Harold
Cheers
Harold
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Hello Harold;HAC wrote:Need a bit more info (brand, possibly a pic of the movement), before I can give any advice. A lot depends on the make of watch, as availability of parts can be an issue. With luck, a generic mainspring may be feasible..
Cheers
Harold
It's a Zenith brand, Swiss model, Pocket watch.
There's nothing wrong with the movement. I just can't get the ring to snap on.
-Z
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
CaptZaphod wrote:Hello Harold;HAC wrote:Need a bit more info (brand, possibly a pic of the movement), before I can give any advice. A lot depends on the make of watch, as availability of parts can be an issue. With luck, a generic mainspring may be feasible..
Cheers
Harold
It's a Zenith brand, Swiss model, Pocket watch.
There's nothing wrong with the movement. I just can't get the ring to snap on.
-Z
That reply on mainsprings was meant for the repeater post above it..
Are you sure its not a screw-on bezel? Zenith used them, and occasionally a swing out case. MOST, if not all bezels are screw on, with some rare exceptions
Snap on bezels, generally need to be pressed on at an anle. If there is a nail-nick at one edge (it should look like a small dent or a missing bit of the edge, then try this - place the edge of the bezel opposite the nail-nick flat on the case, touching at 12:00, so that the edge of the ebzel is on the case rim, and right up against it.. The other side should be resting above the rim,slightly..
with the watch face up in the palm of one hand, GENTLY!! press down on the bezel with the palm of the other hand with the pressure going towards the 6:00 edge
It should snap into place.. You shouldnt have to force it.. These type of bezels are not that common, as a screw on was easier to manufacture, and was less likely to come off..
If its a screw on bezel, there will be no nail nick. Simply place it on the case and screw it down gently, so as not to cross thread it.. (if you strip or cross the threads, than its pretty much impossible to fix)
If its a swing out case, and the bezel has come off, its probably also a screw-on type..
Good case pics would help determine what the problem is...
Cheers
Harold
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Harold;HAC wrote:CaptZaphod wrote:Hello Harold;HAC wrote:Need a bit more info (brand, possibly a pic of the movement), before I can give any advice. A lot depends on the make of watch, as availability of parts can be an issue. With luck, a generic mainspring may be feasible..
Cheers
Harold
It's a Zenith brand, Swiss model, Pocket watch.
There's nothing wrong with the movement. I just can't get the ring to snap on.
-Z
That reply on mainsprings was meant for the repeater post above it..
Are you sure its not a screw-on bezel? Zenith used them, and occasionally a swing out case. MOST, if not all bezels are screw on, with some rare exceptions
Snap on bezels, generally need to be pressed on at an anle. If there is a nail-nick at one edge (it should look like a small dent or a missing bit of the edge, then try this - place the edge of the bezel opposite the nail-nick flat on the case, touching at 12:00, so that the edge of the ebzel is on the case rim, and right up against it.. The other side should be resting above the rim,slightly..
with the watch face up in the palm of one hand, GENTLY!! press down on the bezel with the palm of the other hand with the pressure going towards the 6:00 edge
It should snap into place.. You shouldnt have to force it.. These type of bezels are not that common, as a screw on was easier to manufacture, and was less likely to come off..
If its a screw on bezel, there will be no nail nick. Simply place it on the case and screw it down gently, so as not to cross thread it.. (if you strip or cross the threads, than its pretty much impossible to fix)
If its a swing out case, and the bezel has come off, its probably also a screw-on type..
Good case pics would help determine what the problem is...
Cheers
Harold
Both the front and the back, have a small lip that extends out, that you can catch with your finger nail, in order to remove.
I will try your suggestion, when I get home from work (2nd shift-on my lunch break now.).
Thank you,
-Z
Re: Pocket Watch repair...
No hinge,though, right?
Cheers
Harold
Cheers
Harold
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
Pressing the ring on didn't work.
Great directions though.
Great directions though.
Last edited by CaptZaphod on Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:37 am; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Pics now available.)
Remember... I know nothing.
Remember that I know nothing, but if the bezel does come from that watch and isn't distorted then it should clip on. The crystal should also fit inside it. How good a fit is the crystal into the bezel? Can you fit the crystal into the bezel? If not I would guess that the bezel is slightly distorted.
Z.
Z.
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Re: Pocket Watch repair...
It all fits together, and the bezel clips 75-80% on.Zwack wrote:Remember that I know nothing, but if the bezel does come from that watch and isn't distorted then it should clip on. The crystal should also fit inside it. How good a fit is the crystal into the bezel? Can you fit the crystal into the bezel? If not I would guess that the bezel is slightly distorted.
Z.
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